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		<title>we are already lit</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted this back in 2007, while I was still serving a church in North Atlanta as designated pastor.  The poem came to mind recently as I&#8217;ve been working on my first full length book, Getting Drawn In. Its striking how we learn and re-learn things.  The allusions to Moses and Pentecost seem as important [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this back in 2007, while I was still serving a church in North Atlanta as designated pastor.  The poem came to mind recently as I&#8217;ve been working on my first full length book, <em>Getting Drawn In</em>. Its striking how we learn and re-learn things.  The allusions to Moses and Pentecost seem as important a reminder for me today as when I was writing them 4 years ago:</p>
<blockquote><p>wicks<br />
-Church of St. Andrew, Christmas, 2006</p>
<p>1.<br />
Until pews are dandelions<br />
–sprig leggy levers–<br />
catapulting  young minds into kingdomcome;<br />
sweeping elderminds like dreamseeds  of evervision.</p>
<p>Until songs take wing<br />
stretching strong like the arrows of  migrating Juncos<br />
lending lift, everloft, and standard.<br />
Tail  feathers slicing<br />
tomorrow unto tomorrow.</p>
<p>Until prayers shovelset us into the red Georgia clay<br />
sinking our  toes like the magnolia’s roots<br />
breaking open bone-earth’s chapped  tongue<br />
making our hope particular and rooty<br />
tangling us here, now,  to daily bread</p>
<p>2.<br />
Until our aviary,<br />
a loose canopy tabernacling for us,<br />
meets  the winds of intrastators<br />
and price-per-acre<br />
and towers  catch-and-releasing invisible information;<br />
until the long carving  frenchdrains spoon away at its stature<br />
(walk humbly with your God)<br />
until  the pieces of our umbrella<br />
–the very stones and mortar of this  sanctuary–<br />
must join their sister elements<br />
that groan and clap to  the song that sang  us all into</p>
<p>existence.</p>
<p>3.<br />
Until then,<br />
inhale;<br />
receive Spirit here.<br />
Spirit  who practices this all like Moshe’s bush on Horeb<br />
who sings that  song to which our ears belong.<br />
Take the cup,<br />
raise her,<br />
exhale  the gratitude of<br />
carbon dioxide and moisturedrip for the forest,<br />
lick  your lips and dig your teeth in<br />
to heaven’s sweet ‘what-is-it.’</p>
<p>4.<br />
Today is a Tuesday,<br />
December’s light is late as usual.<br />
Slipping  past the commute<br />
into this morning’s eye,<br />
I sit in my study,<br />
a  place of words, walls, and a solid oak desk that all precede me<br />
and I  watch this candle devour the cold room<br />
and flicker<br />
hotter than  any coal placed on my lips.<br />
And I remember,</p>
<p>we are already lit. Burning<br />
but not consumed.<br />
Set to flight.<br />
Racing  but not exhausted.<br />
And this building already sings<br />
and breathes<br />
and  joins creation.<br />
And the dead are raised in Christ,<br />
worship  already working,</p>
<p>and the old and the future are part of today’s<br />
firelight.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Lyrics for songs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished a great weekend at the Montreat College Conference playing with Rea Rea (Clemson) on Bass and Jason Peckman (Athens) on drums.  They put up with a lot of seat-of-the-pants direction from me, and made it a far better weekend than it would have been were I just a guy with his acoustic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished a great weekend at the <a href="http://collegeconference.wordpress.com/">Montreat College Conference </a>playing with Rea Rea (Clemson) on Bass and Jason Peckman (Athens) on drums.  They put up with a lot of seat-of-the-pants direction from me, and made it a far better weekend than it would have been were I just a guy with his acoustic guitar.  Ellen and Audry (from Emory) were great vocalists, Donnie (Athens) a mad soprano saxophonist, and Jefferson (Northern Alabama) with some sick chops on the piano. We taught a lot of new songs as well as new arrangements I&#8217;ve been working on.  Here are lead sheets for three of those songs.  More to come.  Oh and if you were at the conf and wanna hear some of my singer-songwriter stuff check out the <a href="http://www.ilike.com/artist/Troy+Bronsink">music link to iLike</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Wildest-Imagination-Bass.pdf">Wildest Imagination (Bass)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Wildest-Imagination-Capo2.pdf">Wildest Imagination (Guitar Capo2)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Oh-Blessed-God.pdf">Oh Blessed God</a></p>
<p><a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Bring-Forth.pdf">Bring Forth</a></p>
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		<title>GENERATE magazine</title>
		<link>http://churchasart.com/blog/2009/03/19/generate-magazine/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#8217;m excited to be collaborating with Paul Soupiset, Tim Snyder, and Makeesha Fisher, among others, on this long awaited project.  I will be editor of visual and performing arts.
HERE&#8217;S THE SCOOP&#8230;

GENERATE Magazine has been an open, collaborative project in the works for more than six years now. And after many casual conversations — and [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">I&#8217;m excited to be collaborating with <a href="http://soupiset.typepad.com/">Paul Soupiset</a>, <a href="http://curatingthejourney.org/">Tim Snyder,</a> and <a href="http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/">Makeesha Fisher</a>, among others, on this long awaited project.  I will be editor of visual and performing arts.</span></p>
<p><strong>HERE&#8217;S THE SCOOP&#8230;<br />
</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;"><a href="http://www.GENERATEmagazine.com">GENERATE Magazine</a> has been an open, collaborative project in the works for more than six years now. And after many casual conversations — and the 2009 convening of an editorial team — we are ready and eager to involve you, the larger community, in helping realize this dream with us.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">The seeds for GENERATE Magazine were sown sitting around a fountain in San Diego in 2004 — a few writers, poets, artists and designers explored and dreamed about launching a print publication that would embody the ethos and tell the stories of the growing, generative conversation that some have called the emerging church conversation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Again at the 2007 Emergent Gathering, another planning group was convened to discuss logistics, bring some leadership to the dream, and get things rolling. GENERATE Magazine is the fruit of many months of their planning.</span></p>
<p><strong>VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS?</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Art provides resistance and lift to what the Spirit of New Creation is generating. The beauty that artisans fashion, sing, and perform can testify to what is possible and evoke imagination for what is yet to come.  We are drawn to paintings and songs that put us &#8220;in play.&#8221; GENERATE aims to fashion a synthesis of such works of art, and to celebrate the lives of their creators, in order to put our readers in play as well.<br />
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>WHY GENERATE?</strong><br />
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">GENERATE exists as a forum to retell the stories of the grassroots communities and individuals who are finding emergent and alternative means to follow God in the Way of Jesus. We hope to create an artifact of this historical conversation. These stories will be transmitted through narrative, works of visual art, documented performances, verse, fiction, non-fiction, essays, and interviews.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">We/you are the conversation; our art, our lives, our hopes and failures all meet up with God’s approaching dreams for creation. We converse and in doing so spread the news that we are not alone — that joy is found in our generative friendship.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">GENERATE Magazine is a grassroots-organized, independent publication affiliated as a friend of Emergent Village, but not affiliated with any publishing house. We are currently exploring ways to distribute GENERATE Magazine via the Emergent Village Cohorts and wider friendships. More on that in the days to come.</span></p>
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		<title>Advent and families&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So here we are, the first week of advent.  Last year, with the help of two other families, we started a ritual of reading advent scriptures (passages that announce the coming of God&#8217;s dreams) with our kids.  Here&#8217;s the kit to getting started, and here&#8217;s the blog that tracked our month.  I&#8217;ll post more later.
I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here we are, the first week of advent.  Last year, with the help of two other families, we started a ritual of reading advent scriptures (passages that announce the coming of God&#8217;s dreams) with our kids.  <a href="http://troybronsink.typepad.com/advent_waiting/2007/11/down-load-the-w.html">Here&#8217;s the kit</a> to getting started, and here&#8217;s <a href="http://troybronsink.typepad.com/advent_waiting/">the blog that tracked our month</a>.  I&#8217;ll post more later.</p>
<p>I hope this gets your wheals turning!</p>
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		<title>post up on presbymergent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Presbymergent Part 2 of &#8220;Mainline Emergent in the Reformed Tradition&#8221;  is up here.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Presbymergent Part 2 of &#8220;Mainline Emergent in the Reformed Tradition&#8221;  is up <a href="http://presbymergent.org/2008/10/10/a-mainline-emergent-in-the-reformed-tradition/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>presbymergence?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Adam Walker Cleaveland and Karen Sloan and I met at the Mainline Emergent/s event at Columbia Theological Seminary two winters ago and the two of them had a great idea to build an environment for emergent conversation within the PC(USA).  At first I was a distant skeptic, then a related skeptic, and now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So <a href="http://pomomusings.com">Adam Walker Cleaveland</a> and <a href="http://karensloan.net/">Karen Sloan</a> and I met at the <a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/mainline-emergents-update-from-troy-bronsink">Mainline Emergent/s</a> event at Columbia Theological Seminary two winters ago and the two of them had a great idea to build an environment for emergent conversation within the PC(USA).  At first I was a distant skeptic, then a related skeptic, and now a skeptical contributor to this growing discussion.  I won&#8217;t look to define <a href="http://www.presbymergent.org">Presbymergent</a> here, but to note the synchronicity that as Presbymergent is looking to define herself Phyllis Tickle, in her book, <a href="http://www.thegreatemergence.com/Home">The Great Emergence</a> is providing some overarching theories for how such hyphen-mergents and <a href="http://emergentvillage.org">Emergent Village</a> are relitivised within a larger phenomena.    Along the way I have even met  Emergent Jewish Rabis, so who knows where all this will lead.</p>
<p>Well, <a href="http://www.ryanbloger.com">Ryan Bolger</a>, co-author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Churches-Christian-Community-Postmodern/dp/0801027152">Emerging Churches:Creating Christian Communities in Postmodern Cultures </a>was asked by his seminary to devote an issue of their quarterly journal to Mainline Emergents, and I agreed to write a piece that needed to be longer than their publishing space.  So it is split into two places:</p>
<p><strong>The first installment can be found in <a href="http://documents.fuller.edu/news/pubs/tnn/2008_Fall/5_mainline_emergent.asp">Fuller Seminary&#8217;s Theology, News and Note, Fall 2008 Issue.</a></strong></p>
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<p>The second is forthcoming on the <a href="http://presbymergent.org/">Presbymergent</a> blog.  I will post more on this later and sometime in the next month will have a blog conversation with Ryan about the whole journal issue including the following other articles:</p>
<p>Eddie Gibbs and <a href="http://http://www.ryanbolger.com">Ryan Bolger</a> wrote <em>The Morphing of the Church</em>;<br />
Walt Kallestad, Lutheran pastor, <a href="http://www.joyonline.org/about/pastors.php">Community Church of Joy</a>, wrote <em>Redefining Success, Moving from Entertainment to Worship</em>;<br />
<a href="http://www.ryanjbell.net/">Ryan Bell</a>, pastor, Hollywood Seventh Day Adventist, wrote <em>From the Margins: Engaging Missional LIfe in the Seventh-Day-Adventist Church</em>;<br />
<a href="http://www.sarcasticlutheran.typepad.com/">Nadia Bolz-Weber</a>, mission developer of a Lutheran church plant in Denver, “House for all Sinners and Saints”, wrote <em>Confessions of a Sarcastic Lutheran</em>;<br />
<a href="http://churchasart.com//">Troy Bronsink</a>, PCUSA pastor and community organizer in inner-city Atlanta, wrote <em>Of Dying Breeds and Swelling Hopes: A Mainline Emergent in the Reformed Tradition</em>;<br />
<a href="http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/">Eugene Cho</a>, pastor of Quest, Seattle, wrote <em>Quest and Its Relationship with the Evangelical Covenant Church</em>;<br />
Phil Jackson, pastor of <a href="http://www.thahouse.org/index2.html">The House</a> in Chicago, wrote <em>A Reciprocal Connection: The Surprising Convergence of Hip-Hop and the ECC</em>;<br />
<a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/">David Fitch</a>, pastor of “Life on the Vine”, in outlying Chicago, wrote <em>On Being an Emerging Christian in the Christian and Missionary Alliance</em>;<br />
<a href="http://www.lizrios.com/">Liz Rios</a>, founder for Center for Emerging Female Leaership, and <a href="http://parkslopepastor.blogspot.com/">Luis Alvarez</a>, pastor in the AG, wrote <em>Will a New Church Emerge? Las Raices in the Assemblies of God.</em></p>
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		<title>any press is good press?</title>
		<link>http://churchasart.com/blog/2008/09/09/any-press-is-good-press/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So in a previous post I mentioned that the AJC described me as a former pastor&#8230;  well I mentioned it to the journalist who referred my name to the editor of corrections who called me trying to get his mind around the issue.  It went a bit like this:
 AJC: So when Chris interviewed you were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in a <a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/2008/08/30/no-i-have-not-left-presbyterianism/">previous post</a> I mentioned that the AJC described me as a former pastor&#8230;  well I mentioned it to the journalist who referred my name to the editor of corrections who called me trying to get his mind around the issue.  It went a bit like this:</p>
<blockquote><p> AJC: So when Chris interviewed you were you a minister?</p>
<p>TB: Yes, I was ordained in July of 2006 and have been a minister ever since, serving at large within the presbytery for the past year.</p>
<p>AJC:  So does &#8220;at large&#8221; mean you were not at a church?  &#8216;Because the AJC is committed to being accurate from the perception of a bystander, and not neccessarily the technical terms of a particular denomination.</p>
<p>TB:  Well, I have been doing minister things, like marrying people and leading funerals and  preaching at churches.  But I was doing that before I was ordained.</p>
<p>AJC:  So would someone in your church say you were a pastor?</p>
<p>TB:  Well it depends on what you mean by church.  I am a part of the universal church but I don&#8217;t belong to a particular church. Reformed churches generally considers an ordained minister a pastor for her/his whole life.  But my denomination did change my &#8220;standing&#8221; from &#8220;At Large&#8221; meaning in no presbyterian post, to &#8220;organizing pastor&#8221;  meaning starting a congregation that is as yet not chartered. So the problem includes one&#8217;s definition of &#8220;church&#8221; too.</p>
<p>AJC:  So you mean you do &#8220;have&#8221; a church?</p>
<p>TB:  I&#8217;m not trying to be evasive here.  But all I have is friends who are meeting oneanother on the journey that might end in becoming a formal church.  We plan to meet monthly for the next half year and to seek God&#8217;s dreams in the city. But thats it- so far. And I guess 2 or 3 meeting for this purpose includes the presence of Christ who is both Word and Body broken&#8230; so you could say this is church.  But none of us thinks so, yet.  Not yet, at least.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well this went on a bit more until I apologized and said, &#8220;Sorry for complicating matters.  My primary concern here is that folks in my neighborhood, colleagues in my denomination, and potential benefactors beyond those groups not think I&#8217;ve jumped ship.&#8221;  To which he said, &#8220;Oh, I see.  Well, thank you for your time.&#8221;</p>
<p>And after that I think we both hung up the phone and went our separate ways to find a stiff drink and <a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/09/04/corrections.html">this</a> is what resulted in the paper the next day:</p>
<blockquote><p>A story in Saturday’s Living section about author Phyllis Tickle included incorrect information about Troy Bronsink’s status with the Presbyterian Church. He is a pastor.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice, huh?</p>
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		<title>presbymeme II</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So my new friend Bruce, who moderates an assemblage of &#8217;self-identified Jesus followers who trace their ideological origins back to the reformation and utilize the language and infrastructures of political representative polity to make their decisions&#8217; used his power to requisition a meme from those of us in the blogosphere&#8230;.

The Rules // Presbymeme II

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>So my new friend <a href="http://www.mod.reyes-chow.com/">Bruce</a>, who moderates an assemblage of &#8217;self-identified Jesus followers who trace their ideological origins back to the reformation and utilize the language and infrastructures of political representative polity to make their decisions&#8217; used <em>his</em> power to requisition a meme from those of us in the blogosphere&#8230;.<br />
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<p><strong>The Rules // <a href="http://www.mod.reyes-chow.com/2008/08/moderator-mon-1.html">Presbymeme II</a></strong></p>
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<li>in about 25 words each, answer the following five questions;</li>
<li>tag five presbyterian bloggers and send them a note to let them know they were tagged;</li>
<li>be sure to <a href="http://www.mod.reyes-chow.com/2008/08/moderator-mon-1.html">link to this original post</a>, leave a comment or send a trackback to this post so others can find you;</li>
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<p><strong>The Questions // Presbymeme II /</strong></p>
<p><strong><strong>1. </strong>What is your favorite faith-based hymn, song or chorus.</strong></p>
<p>Currently tied between Lori Chaffer&#8217;s &#8220;Please Don&#8217;t Make me Sing this Song&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/o/comyfait.htm">Come Ye Faithful Raise the Strain</a>&#8221; (hymn 14 blue hymnal- though I mess with 1870s melody) by John of Damascus (c. 675-749).</p>
<p><embed src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1809509424474640522&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=true" id="VideoPlayback" style="width: 400px; height: 326px" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed><strong><strong>2. What was the context, content and/or topic of the last sermon that truly touched, convicted, inspired, challenged, comforted and/or otherwise moved you?</strong></strong>Mark Lomax at Church Unbound as he spoke about the reign-dom of God.<strong><strong>3. If you could have all Presbyterians read just one of your previous posts, what would it be and why?</strong></strong></p>
<p>I think the discussion around the <a href="http://churchasart.com/blog/2007/11/27/presbymergence-pt2/">future of presbymergent</a> several months back was a good one to have my presbyterian colleagues weigh in on.</p>
<p><strong><strong>4. What are three PC(USA) flavored blogs you read on a regular basis?</strong></strong></p>
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<li><strong><a href="http://leronshults.typepad.com/my_weblog/">LeRonShultz</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.reverendmother.org/">Reverend Mother</a> </strong>(a pseudonymous seminary classmate)</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://pomomusings.com/">Adam Walker Cleaveland</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://thefetteredheart.com/">Ryan Kemp Pappan</a></strong></li>
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<p><strong><strong>5. If the PC(USA) were a movie, what would it be and why?</strong></strong></p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420223/quotes">Stranger Than Fiction</a>&#8221; the pop-pomo film where Will Farrell meets the voice of his narrator and strives to control his poetic destiny.  Why?: Because we continue to hear the voice of our Narrator, but in our fear of our imminent death we run the other way or try to form committees of experts to avoid our very vocation.  <em>And</em> because I&#8217;m pleasantly surprised at the courage of folks I meet who <em>do</em> take the risk of stepping into the script, and laying down our tribe&#8217;s future for something larger than our own story, only to find that this is the very act that makes our story and tribe what it is.</p>
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		<title>Connecting&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Tom Livengood and folks at The Living Room took the initiative to help people connect to their neighbor in Atlanta.  They started by listing agencies they knew of in the atlanta area on a google map.   Trey Tucker with Roov.com designed artwork for a re:connect page. And then one of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, <a href="http://twitter.com/tlivengood">Tom Livengood</a> and folks at <a href="http://www.livingroomatlanta.com/">The Living Room</a> took the initiative to help people connect to their neighbor in Atlanta.  They started by listing agencies they knew of in the atlanta area on a google map.   <a href="http://twitter.com/thetreytucker">Trey Tucker</a> with Roov.com designed artwork for a re:connect page. And then one of the TLR peeps, <a href="http://www.amyandersondesign.com/">Amy Anderson</a>, built this site to facilitate the google map and to introduce folks to Roov.com.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank you, Tom, Trey, Amy and others.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.re-connect.us" title="www.re-connect.us"><img src="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/reconnectatl.jpg" alt="www.re-connect.us" align="middle" width="400" /></a></p>
<p>The Re:CONNECT weekend was an invention of <a href="http://www.chariscommunity.org/about/team/nate-ledbetter/">Nate Ledbetter</a>, <a href="http://melvinbray.wordpress.com/">Melvine Bray</a>, and <a href="http://www.missionyear.org/blog/leroybarber/">Leroy Barber</a> and myself. We wanted folks in Atlanta to meet other people doing justice and to learn about justice/social community work.  The weekend rocked!  We had a panel discussion on Friday night and the panelists included (I&#8217;ll add more as I have their blogs):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rustypritchard.net/">Rusty Prichard : </a>Evangelical Environmental Network</p>
<p>Mark Anthony: Pastor, Jesus for Justice</p>
<p>Carlos: Mentoring and Public Speaking</p>
<p>Daniel Hombrich: <a href="http://www.innocenceatlanta.org/about">INnocence Atlanta</a></p>
<p>Nate Ledbetter: <a href="http://www.chariscommunity.org/">Charis Housing</a></p>
<p>Deborah: Mothers and children</p>
<p>Chris Capehard: <a href="http://www.roov.com">ROOV.com</a></p>
<p>They described their work and they answered questions including:</p>
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<li>How do others’ passions contribute to the reach and focus of your ministry?</li>
<li>How do you meet Jesus in doing your work?</li>
<li>What has your work taught you about engaging civil government?</li>
<li>How do local neighbors and the contexts of individual neighborhoods play a roll in the kind of ministry you do?</li>
<li>How do church congregations help or hinder the work you feel called to?</li>
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<p><img src="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/img_0481.JPG" alt="J4P crowds" align="middle" width="400" /></p>
<p><img src="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/img_0485.JPG" alt="jay and scott" align="middle" width="400" /></p>
<p><img src="http://churchasart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/img_0489.JPG" alt="shane’s stump speach, complete with the revolutionary’s bullhorn" align="middle" width="400" /></p>
<p>The next night we had Shane Claiborn, Chris Haw, and Scott and Jay from <a href="http://www.psalters.com/">The Psalters</a> come and perform &#8220;<a href="http://jesusforpresident.org/blog/">Jesus for President</a>.&#8221;  It was an unbelievable synthesis of narative theology, liberation theology, political imagination, and John Howard Yoder with some deep country Tennessee thrown in.  I felt like I was simultaniously at a Tom Wait&#8217;s show, a Toni Morrison poetry reading, Walter Bruggemann seminary class, and post modern theatre. My friends <a href="http://www.sharpseven.com/images/who_heading.gif">Ryan and Holly Sharp</a> also known as the <a href="http://thecobaltseason.com/site/">Cobalt Season</a>, were the artists behind the book design and the multimedia support- they nailed it!</p>
<p>The whole weekend was a huge success.  The <a href="http://www.ajc.com/living/content/printedition/2008/07/19/monastic.html">AJC</a> wrote about it, we had folks from Auburn and Columbia, SC.  And we had a huge crew of volunteers from the <a href="http://atlantaemergence.blogspot.com/">Atlanta Emergent Cohort</a>, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=79101265&amp;hiq=trey%2Ctucker#/group.php?gid=9580640891">Marietta Presbyterian Church</a>, and <a href="http://www.missionyear.org/">Mission Year</a>.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re from the ATL go to <a href="http://www.re-connect.us">Re-CONNECT.us </a>and keep the movement going!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#8217;m excited to be speaking at a few events at Montreat, NC over the next year.  In July of 08 I&#8217;ll be presenting with Karen Sloan on Emerging Church at the Church Unbound Conference.

And in June 8-11 of 2009 I&#8217;ll be  a keynote at the Alt7 event, as well as presenting there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m excited to be speaking at a few events at Montreat, NC over the next year.  In July of 08 I&#8217;ll be presenting with K<a href="http://presbymergent.org/author/sloankaren/">aren Sloan</a> on Emerging Church at the Church Unbound Conference.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.montreat.org/images/382.jpg" align="absmiddle" height="700" width="500" /></p>
<p>And in June 8-11 of 2009 I&#8217;ll be  a keynote at the <a href="http://www.montreat.org/current/2009-conference-schedule">Alt7 event</a>, as well as presenting there with <a href="http://pomomusings.com/">Adam Walker Cleaveland</a>.</p>
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<p>I look forward to meeting many of you along the way!</p>
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